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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Having just written this... it seems no longer to be the case.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Flickr RSS feeds and 3rd party linking seem to be all over the place.  Not sure why.  An example:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Farm 3:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Open this link over a proxy:  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2269/1740247862_fa25059da6_o.jpg - it should open fine.  Now open this (replacing the farm3.static.flickr.com with an IP address for the server) http://69.147.90.158/2269/1740247862_fa25059da6_o.jpg - there will be an Access Denied error.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do the same without a proxy (inside China) and the page with farm3 in the URL should open fine, while the page with the IP address in the URL should not.&lt;br /&gt;
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Farm 1 and 2:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The same test.  Open this random picture I browsed with a proxy http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1032/596142984_770c57d3f4_m.jpg (should be toilet paper/mouse combo - how cute) now open it again using the IP address instead of the URL (http://69.147.123.56/1032/596142984_770c57d3f4_m.jpg) and the Access Denied error, as with Farm 3 above, will show up.  This was not the case until a week ago.  In this example exactly the same photo is being retrieved so user permissions should not come into the equation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, do the same without a proxy (inside China).  The URL with Farm2 in it should result in a blank page, the link with the IP address in the URL should result in the Access Denied page.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Conclusion:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From trying to access the photos tested above via a URL using the server&#039;s IP address, for both Farm3 and Farm2, It is clear (as of this moment this evening) that Yahoo/Flickr have disabled access to their server content via URLs with an IP address and therefore prevented Chinese/Iranian Firewall circumvention measures that the Firefox &#039;Access Flickr&#039; plugin provides.  It is not clear whether Flickr meant this to happen, or if it is a side effect of other efforts they&#039;ve been making.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In China, the Farm3.static.flickr.com server seems to be unblocked, for now.  Little chance of accessing older photos (pre Farm3/pre October) without going 100% through a proxy, or using an overseas website to cache photos fed through RSS.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:02:53 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;The Flickr block was very very odd - in that it was so easy to get around both by the webmaster and by the user for websites where the webmaster was too damn lazy to adjust.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Basically, the &#039;Flickr Block&#039; was a block against the servers (farm1.static.flickr.com and farm2.static.flickr.com) Flickr photos were stored on (with URLs as subdomains of Flickr) rather than the root, flickr.com.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Late last week reports that the &lt;a href=&quot;addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4286/&quot;&gt;Access Flickr&lt;/a&gt; plugin was starting not to work began to circulate.  At the beginning of October Flickr introduced the farm3.static.flickr.com server - essentially a new server farm.  The Access Flickr plugin was updated to re-write the URL of a Flickr request.  Then the plugin designed to allow one to freely view a site stopped working again.  Checking out the problem made it obvious... Flickr have started blocking access to photos via IP address, but at the same time the GFW dropped it&#039;s objection to Flickr.  Nice co-incidence.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, to allow visitors to view Flickr photos, drop those &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chinawebmasters.org/story/flickr_and_gfw_fix&quot;&gt;Flickr server re-writes&lt;/a&gt; and the Access Flickr plugin, at least that&#039;s what it seems like this evening.&lt;/p&gt;
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